“No, no, no, podcasting is a very quickly growing genre and we got in early, but we never take it for granted, because things can change quickly,” he says. Is there a Goalhanger charter? For example, if he was offered £10 billion in morally questionable cash would he think about it? “Yeah, I’ll take 10 billion then give it all away. That’s what I don’t understand about billionaires. How much do you need? Imagine the good you could do with 10 billion quid. You could solve homelessness but they never do, these billionaires, and they don’t even pay tax. I just think, ‘What’s wrong with you?’”

